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1. 

   Chief
   Coastal Vagabond

   I was reading an interesting article in the Early Summer 2015 edition of Adventure Kayak magazine titled: The Antidote to Apathy. Although I hate to bring it up again, it reminded me of our troubles in the EC2015 and the complete lack of interest in the WaterTribe Survival Meetup.

   The author, Charlotte Jacklein, nailed it. She wrote about a participant in one of her intermediate classes who had taken a basic class about one year previous and had not been in a boat since. He expected to jump into an intermediate class without any practice. Of course, she had to fail him.

   She also wrote about certification classes being great, but you still have to practice. WaterTribers should be practicing basic survival skills regularly because it needs to become so ingrained that you don't have to think about it. Consider the four levels of competence:

   1. Unconscious Incompetence: We don't know what we don't know.
   2. Conscious Incompetence: At least we sort of know that there are skills we need to learn.
   3. Conscious Competence: We have the training and know the skills, but we have to think about it.
   4. Unconscious Competence: With continuous practice the skills become ingrained into our muscle memory and we don't even have to think about what to do in any situation. We just do it.

    

   The WaterTribe Survival Meetup will get you to stage 3 or help you get to stage 4. It will also be lots of fun and a WaterTribe Challenge in its own way. This course is not required, but it will satisfy the Skills Assessment for Newbies and provide valuable practice for WaterTribe Veterans. Here is the link;

   http://www.meetup.com/WaterTribe-Adventures/events/221636094/ 

   If you signup for the course, please make your reservation at Palm River Cottages ASAP before they fill up.

   Posted 5 years ago #
2. 

   Ekim
   Member

   Do we need to make reservations for both Friday and Saturday or will one of the nights be an overnight camping?

   Posted 5 years ago #
3. 

   Ekim
   Member

   Here is the link to River Palm Cottages & Fish Camp

   http://www.riverpalmcottages.com/

   Posted 5 years ago #
4. 

   Chief
   Coastal Vagabond

   We will be setting up our camps during the course but we will not be spending the night in them. You should reserve both nights at the cottages.

   You will actually setup some different kinds of camps: regular, bivvy, and hypothermia recovery.

   Posted 5 years ago #
5. 

   MicroTom
   Key Master

   Hi Everyone,

   A little plug for this event and some further info.

   WaterTribe held a kayak stroke clinic at the same location two years back. The location, instruction and camaraderie among WaterTribers was very well received.

   River Palms Cottages and Fish Camp is a well maintained throwback to old Florida. Many different groups who appreciate the outdoors use the facility including Coastal Conservation Association of Florida, Florida Outdoor Writers Association, and several boat owners groups. Its a safe and clean place for us to meet, practice, and paddle. For those who do not want to stay on the property we are going to be only a few miles from primitive camping maintained by the the Indian River Spoil Island Project. (I could write out every little detail on which island is near River Palms but look it up. Its good Ultimate Florida Challenge research you may use someday in the future). Also nearby is a great restaurant that the group can paddle to if we wish to be more social called Conchy Joe's. I cannot say enough about the setting for this event. Its really good. Also, last time we met at River Palms I cooked dinner on Saturday night. The main dish was several kinds of local fish. I am planning to do the same this year. You won't want to miss it.

   A plug for the instruction. Its great that we all get together for our challenges but the reality is that we only see each other as group at the start and finish. Once on the water we spread out. Time on the water together is where we get to share our knowledge. There are Tribers among us who are world class in many different disciplines. Paddling, sailing, survival, rescues. I hope you are like me and see lots of value in these opportunities.

   Here are some pics & video from the last event at River Palms. We had a great time and many of us came away with more skills that before. It will be the same for the next event.

    

    

   

   

   

   

   

    

    

   

   

   

   

   

   Posted 5 years ago #
6. 

   MicroTom
   Key Master

   Update #2 - Room Availability

   I spoke to the River Palms managment today (5/22/15). All rooms are available BUT there is a second event wishing to use the facility the same weekend. If you make your reservation now you have the option to get the best view possible or if you wish the most affordable room. I highly recommend getting your reservation in early so that you have options.

   Room rates are here: http://www.riverpalmcottages.com/rates.htm

   Map of property here: http://www.riverpalmcottages.com/cottages.htm

   Group meet up will be behind the the main house, #18.

   Posted 5 years ago #
7. 

   Chief
   Coastal Vagabond

   OK, I just don't get it. Even though I already know how to do this stuff, I'd signup for this in a heart beat. In fact I did so in years past when an adventure race I signed up for offered something similar.

   Yesterday we had one person signup and then drop out after a few hours. We had another drop out last night. Right now it is just me and MicroTom. I also have a couple of world class instructors ready to go.

   But no interest. I'd really like to know why nobody is interested. This meetup is 24 hours away from being cancelled.

   Posted 5 years ago #
8. 

   seabag
   Member

   Jeezum folks, these things are fun. If I didn't live in frosty Maine, I'd be there in a heartbeat.

   Posted 5 years ago #
9. 

   Ekim
   Member

   In my case I signed up right away but later after you had posted that it was for class 1,2 and 3 I droped out as I am in class 5.  And yes, when you have one for class 5, I'm there.

   Posted 5 years ago #
10. 

    Intrepid
    Member

    Could it be date and place, not lack of interest? Driving a boat 1,000 miles from anywhere for one-day, then driving back; time and expense Can't be justified.

    Instead of putting it down to "no interest", why not query as to why people aren't signing up?

    Posted 5 years ago #
11. 

    Chief
    Coastal Vagabond

    I did ask why people don't seem to be interested. And your reason of driving 1000 miles is perfectly valid. But we had people driving further than that for our Stroke Clinic at the same location last year. I think learning and practicing these skills with a loaded boat is just as valid as learning a more efficient stroke.

    Also, it's a full weekend, not just one day.

    I do appreciate your input. I hope more WaterTribers give their input.

    Posted 5 years ago #
12. 

    BeastOarman
    Member

    For me, it is also about the distance.
    As a suggestion, maybe do these right before each Challenge. Discount for challengers entered, since it will just be a fun refresher. If you have a boat & gear rental option, all those who have been coming to the beach a year ahead of time to check things out, can take the course while they are at there.

    Posted 5 years ago #
13. 

    BustedRudder
    Member

    Input:

    Is there an instructor or is this a group participation?

    There is no way I'm going to pack my boat with EC equipment and food to get it all completely wet and tumbled. I understand the intent but I'm very anal about my gear. I can simulate the weight of a full load with soaking wet moving blankets fore and aft and not destroy gear.

    I'd be more inclined to sign up if there were at least a rolling clinic and or stroke clinic incorporated in the event. As it sits it is an event for people who need practical experience in the basics.

    Just my two cents.

    Posted 5 years ago #
14. 

    Chief
    Coastal Vagabond

    Sorry, but this event is now being cancelled. It was not fair to the Cottages to hold their location if only a few people were going to show up. They had other potential groups trying for that same weekend. The fair thing to do was to let them have it.

    We will try to schedule something else.

    Posted 5 years ago #
15. 

    Ekim
    Member

    In all fairness you put this up Friday on a holiday weekend when many people are away and cancel it before the holiday weekend it over for an event in September.  Would a few days after everyone gets back to see it really make that much difference?  Also, could offing the same class/weekend for class 4 and 5 to see the response be an option?

    Posted 5 years ago #
16. 

    KNOTaDOC
    Member

    I'm with Ouragan... I was away from Thursday to late last night, when I log in I find out about this event... YAY... then I find out it's only for class 1,2,3.. um.. ok... then I scroll down and find out that it was cancelled.  So I'll sit and wait for my event to come up, the distance and cost didn't bug me, I just didn't have time to respond. 

    Keep polishing Chief, the knicks will buff out soon enough and it will be a polished well oiled machine before you know it.

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    KNOTaDOC
    Member

    
    

    Posted 5 years ago #
18. 

    Chief
    Coastal Vagabond

    The time limit was forced by our event location. They needed to know if we were going to be there or not.

    This event has been posted for several weeks. It didn't just go up a few days ago.

    Don't worry, we will be having several meetups over the next few months.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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