POUND NETS -Pamlico & Croatin Sound

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POUND NETS -Pamlico & Croatin Sound

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Started 5 years ago by CaptJackOtter
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CaptJackOtter
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Last year I encountered "Pound Nets" on the Core Sound during my NCPC shortened to just NCC. I wrote about it at that time, and still relive it every once-in-awhile. Well, my plan is to not to actually relive it! But this takes away my option of sailing at night. So I started searching for anything that would show their locations. I came across a 1910 map with designated areas. Nothing really newer!

The areas are basically: from shore out 2,000 feet, plus or minus a mile or so! My experience last year was that you just don't know for sure. The pass through openings are bogus (every five poles or so) for sailboats. I tried to sail through an opening but a line was running from the top of one pole to the top of another across the path. During the day I would have seen it, but at night - NO! My "Miss Sugar" still has scars from that.

If anyone has any information or sources that might help, please pass it on. THANKS!

Posted 5 years ago #
WildBlue
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CaptJackOtter I am looking forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks. Not the Pound nets.

WB

Posted 5 years ago #
KonkererOfTheUseless
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Does anyone have specific locations on any of these nets?

Tonight will (hopefully) be my final download to the GPS.

I recall some great satellite images posted last year, but I can't find them with a search.

Roger??? You must have some details....

Posted 5 years ago #
Chief
Coastal Vagabond

We will be talking about pound nets at the captains meeting, but if anyone has specific information please post it in this thread.

Posted 5 years ago #
JollyRoger
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http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/ncc-pound-nets-need-more-info#post-14019

Guys, here is the thread with the instructions to find at least one on Bing maps, posted by Paul "DogsLife". There are a couple of other helpful threads as well and I will try and locate those and share here. I don't plot my routes out so I do not have any waypoints or anything like that but I do know where a couple are, I will try to locate them on the Bing as well. I'm with Wildblue...looking forward to seeing everyone and new folks as well but not the nets. But if you really want to see pound nets plus more crab pots than I have even seen you need to do the OFC next year!

Posted 5 years ago #
BeastOarman
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Yikes. Now I remember why in 2012 I decided not to row at night. I'm rethinking my strategy now . . .

Thease nets are man killers!!! Several yearsago a kayaker flipped, tried to hold on to a barnacle encrusted pole, cut the inside of his legs and bled to death...

Posted 5 years ago #
JollyRoger
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Ok, here is another location. Coming up the core sound the last turn towards the finish (if you are going in the back door or the cut) you will come to a point on cedar island and a tower. Back just a short distance is Lewis Creek. If you look at the entrance of lewis creek you will see a turnaround where Lola Rd. ends. Look east from the turnaround and you will see the nets. They start very close to shore and run east away from the shoreline. This one did have a marked open area (homemade sign)about the middle which kept me from having to go all the way around. Not sure if it is passable close to shore.

Roger

Posted 5 years ago #
BeastOarman
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Is it safe to say there are no worries of nets until we get above Atlantic? If so perhaps slow my roll if necessary to hit in daylight?

Posted 5 years ago #
JollyRoger
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Beast, When you leave Beauford and go under the Harkers Island bridge you hit the Straits. Ahead is Brown Island. Above Brown Island there are 4 smaller islands. On the far left island look at the top right hand tip and one runs north from the shoreline. I hit this one looking for a spot to camp. I know of at least 2 more before atlantic but will have to find them. I hope this is helps. Roger

Posted 5 years ago #
JollyRoger
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If you happen to go around Harkers Island don't think that you are safe like I did. As you round Harkers and turn the corner and head up the sound be sure to stay off of Brown Island. There is one about the middle of the east side of Brown, starts on shore and runs east a goods ways out. I was tacking up the sound when I saw this one.

I know of one more , and one surface net and will try to locate those as well. Can anyone else add their net locations cause if you don't I am bound to hit it too! Roger

Posted 5 years ago #
Bermudaboy
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JR: Hmm, wondering if this is right at one of my potential camp places? Not sure if I know how get this chart view to display so include link too..?

http://1drv.ms/1rZsZVr

Posted 5 years ago #
JollyRoger
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BB, Tonight I will pull out the chartplotter, mark the locations above and post here, I should have done that last night. But yes from your photo- you would run straight at it if you were taking the most direct route from the bridge to your marked camp spot. (staying above the islands)

Posted 5 years ago #
Bermudaboy
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JR: just my luck! I got a series of potential sandy beach camp sites wpointed AFTER CP1 not knowing how far I will make it before sunset on first day, and with even that I'm probably Charlie-Brown-Valentinecard-Briefcasen my expected progress .. Hadn't really decided how much night sailing would do, but more I read about these Nets more I think need to close it down before visibility gets too bad. All the photos of torn up sea-turtles don't look so good either... Look forward to seeing yr chart of locations... Thanks

Posted 5 years ago #
stripbuilder
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BB, the SW corner of Bells island is a good place to camp. It's just a short distance past Marshallburg point.

Posted 5 years ago #
Bermudaboy
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SB: thats actually my next step camp waypoint if I make it past the nets and still some light left! uploaded file of all my potential camppoints not sure if this will work or not... (think you got click on link once, then click on the file and it should download to your browser)

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=34096CC0F18EA2CF&id=34096CC0F18EA2CF%211293

Posted 5 years ago #
KonkererOfTheUseless
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Anyone have any intel on the pound nets in Pamlico or Croatian Sounds??

Posted 5 years ago #
BeastOarman
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I also "met" a pound net North of the opening to Thoroughfare, running East from shore at Rumley.

I have 5 so far, in the order I plan to hit them:
1. Island North of Brown
2. East of Brown Island (will have to detour to hit this)
3. Halls Point
4. Rumley
5. Lola Road
JollyRoger, I eyeball estimated these and put in GE, and sent you a kmz. Not highly accurate I'm sure.
Posted 5 years ago #
Bermudaboy
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Beast O, could you post a link to the kmz or send me an email... Thanks

Posted 5 years ago #
BeastOarman
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OK, here is a link - first time doing this, with a new onedrive account, so let me know if there is an issue.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=FF7EE7B23045BDB2!106&authkey=!AGDzNt7Rwyg6hh8&ithint=file%2ckmz

Not sure why the link is not all hyper-link, you can copy and paste into a browser.

Posted 5 years ago #
Bermudaboy
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BeastO, thanks! Holy Defacation, looks like they're trying to catch us in the nets just before we make it to the finish line!. I had same problem with link on my Onedrive, in the menu there where you select share it and generate URL, , it gives option to generate a shorter link, if you use the short one, then it doesnt truncate the hyerlink it in the forum text.. Tony

Posted 5 years ago #
BeastOarman
Member

Yeah, we should rename them Tribe Nets!
Thanks for the tip. Remember, these are eyeball approximate.

Posted 5 years ago #
sharpie
Member

BeastOarman - thanks for posting the net positions.

Hillkiller and I sailed the Core Sound in 2012 and met a bunch of pound nets on the east side stretching out from the core banks. As I recall they were mostly in 2' to 3' of water. Probably not an obstacle for kayakers keeping to the western shore but sailors tacking up the sound should keep an eye out for them.

Sharpie

Posted 5 years ago #
KonkererOfTheUseless
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I just spoke to a charter operator in Atlantic, NC - on the Core Sound.

Says there are "about 10" pound nets from Atlantic, north to Cedar Island. He didn't know how many were located between Atlantic south to Harkers Island.

He recommended following the Core Sound channel markers to avoid them.

Posted 5 years ago #
stripbuilder
Member

Running the channel is a good way to miss the nets at night, but it puts you in the path of power boats. I'd prefer to run into a net.

Posted 5 years ago #
Scareman
Member

Bing maps shows some of the nets and their unique geometry.

Zoom into the shore from the finish at Cedar Island and back down the coast to Beaufort. I have no idea if the locations are current.

I was more worried about the ordinance along the NCPC route...

Posted 5 years ago #
HeavilyLaden
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I ran near the channel for the entire time n'bound in Core Sound & encountered no pound nets & only saw a couple boats. There were a couple once turning to come into the finish through the cut, but those were near the shore & not in the straight line route to the cut. I'm not very concerned about power boats as most traffic follows the ICW. As for the prohibited areas, reg's state that vessels are actually permitted to transit these areas & prior to any bombing, the area will be swept & boaters warned to exit the area. That said, I will be avoiding those areas but will skirt the edges.

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