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Started 4 years ago by Chief
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Chief
Coastal Vagabond

There are no new rules. I am going to change the inspection procedures and toughen them up. But what gets inspected hasn't changed one iota.

You do not have to take the WaterTribe Survivial course in September. However, if you want to practice the skills that distinquish an expert from the rest, then take the course. It is completely optional. If you don't want to take the course, don't. It isn't required, but it does help you meet the requirements by practicing expert skills. I really don't get the controversy on this.

You still need to be an expert to enter a WaterTribe Challenge. We will ask some tough questions during the inspection process. We will be a bit less flexible when it comes to passing the inspection.

Make sure you have all the stuff.

Make sure you actually read and understand the Warning.

Make sure you read and understand the Release.

Make sure you read and understand the Float Plan.

Make sure you have the Required Equipment.

Make sure you understand that these are Expedition-Style Adventure Races. Pack accordingly and have the skills necessary.

Make sure your read and understand and have all the skills implied in the Entrance Requirements

BUT NO RULES HAVE CHANGED.

Stop reading clueless forums that are trying to stir the pot. If you take part in those forums you are part of the problem.

Posted 4 years ago #
NautiCal
Member

Perfect!

Posted 4 years ago #
Cwolfe
Member

.... and the turulent waters settled and what a beutiful night it became.

Posted 4 years ago #
Kapakahi
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Poet (Cwolfe)

Prefection (Nautical); ... and the best damn quote I heard in months;

1st place: "Stop reading clueless forums that are trying to stir the pot. If you take part in those forums you are part of the problem. " ~ Chief

2nd place: "Respect the old ways, these old ones still live in the stars and other vodo like charts, some stupid toy that points north and other wives tales." ~Whitecaps

3rd place: "This is the lore that inspire false telling's; the days of ironmen and pneumatic wheels are for never more... its a new age - sealed bearings and polymer plastics". ~ Kap

adventure on!

Kap

Posted 4 years ago #
Sirtackalot
Member

Chief,

Thanks!

Sirtackalot

Posted 4 years ago #
SwampG8R
Member

Chief,

Thanks!

Swampg8r

Posted 4 years ago #
Iszatarock
Member

Chief,

I know I'm computer challenged. But I can't find the new, skills assessment description. You stated in a post (that's now being buried in the forum listing) that it would be included in the Blackbeard Challenge Schedule. But I can't even find the BBC listed under the Watertribe Events, not to mention its schedule.

Stop reading clueless forums that are trying to stir the pot. If you take part in those forums you are part of the problem.

I do promise to stop participating in discussions about what went wrong in EC2015 and what might be done to improve things. But, holy cow! I thought the problem was 12 rescues and CG cancelation of the event, not our attempts to understand and improve things!

Iszatarock

Posted 4 years ago #
Chief
Coastal Vagabond

If you go to the http://www.WaterTribe.com site and click the Events button you will see all the events listed. In the NC Events line you will see a link to the BlackBeard Challenge. Once you click on that link you will see the schedule tab. Here is a direct link:

http://www.watertribe.com/Events/NorthCarolinaPamlicoChallenge/Default.aspx

The schedule for the BBC2015 shows that the Skills Assessment will be on Friday. The regular registration and inspections will be on Saturday. The launch will be on Sunday. This could change slightly depending on how many newbies are actually in the events.

That might change a bit in the next month or so depending on some scouting I will be doing after the OkoumeFest events. I haven't announced anything yet but our previous launching point on Cedar Island is in trouble. I have a new launching point setup, but it is not confirmed until after I scout the location. As soon as I confirm everything, I will update the tracking map and the web site info for the NC Events.

I am working on the Skills Assessment right now and will publish it when it is ready. The urgency of putting this together sort of dissipated when ALL the newbies in the OkoumeFest events dropped out after I sent them an email about the skills test. I didn't think the first version of these tests was so scary, but I'm not a newbie. Anybody doing a WaterTribe event should be able to handle this assessment without any trouble. People considering the NC Events will have plenty of time to practice and decide before they commit to the event.

Posted 4 years ago #
Iszatarock
Member

Thanks for the clarification, Chief. I still have difficulty with the new site/old site business. I understood that the new site (.org) has the forum and events. But maybe that isn't correct.

So the link you provided shows when there will be a skills assessment. But doesn't say what it will entail. Is that assessment described anywhere on either of the Watertribe web sites?

Iszatarock

Posted 4 years ago #
Chief
Coastal Vagabond

I am working on the skill assessments and will add the information to the "old" site ASAP.

Basically, think of it this way.

Take any kayak, canoe or boat class and think about what they would teach for self rescue. But unlike most kayak and canoe classes we will do it with a loaded boat. I will also be very carefully looking at the overall load as it compares to the design limits of the boat and how it is loaded.

Along with this I am planning to do a video of how a kayak should be loaded for these events or any extended camping trip. I know, I know, most of you already know how to do this. But I want to make sure that newbies know what I expect to see.

Once I have the new stuff ready, there will be a link at the top of every event page that will take you to the Skill Assessment page. Once it is up there I will take comments in the forum and consider changes. I hope to have it finalized in early June so folks in the NC events know what to expect and can get some instruction and/or practice.

Posted 4 years ago #
Chief
Coastal Vagabond

OK, I went ahead and published what is available now. At the top of each event page you will see a list of stuff that everyone should read. The link to the Skills Assessment is now in that list.

At this point, it is a work in progress and subject to change at any time. Right now the Overview, Class 1, Class 2, and Class 4 are available. Class 3, Class 5, and Class 6 will be available in a few days.

Here is a direct link: http://www.watertribe.com/Events/SkillAssessments/Default.aspx

If you want to comment on any of this, please start a new thread.

Posted 4 years ago #
Intrepid
Member

No apathy, here; just inability to do this on this date. For those of us who go north for the summer, this happens too close (but not close enough) to when we come south again. I wonder how participation would fare if a WT Survival Course were held in the the Great Lakes - and maybe other - regions this summer.

Posted 4 years ago #
Chief
Coastal Vagabond

Well, I didn't mean to imply apathy to you or anyone in particular. The article I quoted was aimed at the general kayaking community. We get our training and a certificate and then many stop practicing. I am guilty myself. But no more.

I hear you on the distance. But it also works in reverse. For me to hold meetups in the northern tundra isn't going to work.

I think the best solution is what we are doing now. Each WaterTriber can practice on their own using local resources. The key point is to make sure any training and practice involves your loaded boat.

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