Talking About Adventure In Small Boats
whitecaps
Member
This is the one I want to watch.
I always said if the NC had a 300 mile run I would do it. Well be carefull what you say as I have a river trip in Wisconsin this year at the same time.
Nice line up so far. I am really going to be watching the class 4 and 3 boats. I hope the weather is kind to the Hobbies.
Push hard and have fun all! This one could throw all kind of suprises at you.
toby
CaptJackOtter
Member
SandyBottom,
Some days I tend to be very literal and then some days I go with the flow. The flow, "Forum", tends to be that we can take any route around Cedar Island, including going all the way up Core Sound before turning west to Check Point 2.
Now my literal self says the entry rules indicate we can either take the Salter's Creek cut or Thorofare Cut, but no other. My hope that is no longer the case. I would like the option to turn west at Waypoint #1 (Top Spot Chart N239). Sometimes Chief comes down with a final statement, in red, that this is THE WAY. I might have missed it. Can you help out my literal self, and let me know if we have permission to break the rules regarding the "Cuts".
Thanks,
- Scott
SandyBottom
Member
Might need Chief to weigh in here if I get it wrong, as he and I have gone back and forth a few times about routing.
I believe the final decisions were that all participants had to get though CP1 and into Core Sound. Heading up Core Sound you can take a cut over to the Neuse (rather than going back around Cedar Island), there is more than one. After crossing the Neuse you are free to naviate via the ICW or Pamlico Sound but need to get to CP2 - Hobucken, then CP3-Alligator River Marina) in that order, returning to Cedar Island again either down Alligator River on ICW or out to the Albmarle Sound and around back and down the Pamlico Sound.
You cannot get to CP1 and turn around (west) and take the ICW (paralleling the Harlowe) to the Neuse (which I think is what you are asking). You must go up Core Sound.
You are also not required to get to CP3 using one route and then have to return using another, if you choose to stay ICW to CP3 you can do this both ways.
I believe if you even wanted to take Core Sound all the way past the start/finish and then up the Pamlico (no cuts to the Neuse) that should be ok as well (but maybe not the best route).
Dawn
CaptJackOtter
Member
SandyBottom,
WayPoint #1 on the Top Spot chart mentioned above is at the northern end of Core Sound. I have always planned on going up Core Sound. Initially, my sailplan was to go through Thorofare Cut, but if going all the way up Core Sound to Pamlico Sound and cutting over to Check Point #2 is acceptable and the winds are favorable, I would like to have that option available.
Scott
Yes, you can go all the way up Core Sound and into Pamlico and then over to CP2. You can even stop at the starting beach for lunch if you want.
SandyBottom is correct. The course requires going up Core Sound and then using one of the cuts or go all the way around Cedar Island.
Jaybird
Member
SandyBottom wrote:
Might need Chief to weigh in here if I get it wrong, as he and I have gone back and forth a few times about routing.
I believe the final decisions were that all participants had to get though CP1 and into Core Sound. Heading up Core Sound you can take a cut over to the Neuse (rather than going back around Cedar Island), there is more than one. After crossing the Neuse you are free to naviate via the ICW or Pamlico Sound but need to get to CP2 - Hobucken, then CP3-Alligator River Marina) in that order, returning to Cedar Island again either down Alligator River on ICW or out to the Albmarle Sound and around back and down the Pamlico Sound.
You cannot get to CP1 and turn around (west) and take the ICW (paralleling the Harlowe) to the Neuse (which I think is what you are asking). You must go up Core Sound.
You are also not required to get to CP3 using one route and then have to return using another, if you choose to stay ICW to CP3 you can do this both ways.
I believe if you even wanted to take Core Sound all the way past the start/finish and then up the Pamlico (no cuts to the Neuse) that should be ok as well (but maybe not the best route).
Dawn
I didn't think I cared about turning around at CP1 and heading west, but the more I look at the forecast, the more attractive it becomes. Crossing the Neuse at Oriental is ~3 miles vs. 7 at the mouth and the ICW across from Oriental is a much better place to wait out weather than Piney Island. Struggling to wrap my head around a 7 mile crossing in a 20 kt wind with that huge fetch of the Pamlico.
MisterMoon
Member
I expect the skipper's meeting on Thursday afternoon to be pretty lively with all the discussion of the course options and what is and what is not permissable. Can't wait. I'm also feeling torn between sad and glad that I'm not doing this event as a participant. The NCPC looks like a really, really serious challenge. God bless all you pioneers who are doing this for the first time.
Wishing all the competitors a safe and fast passage in and around NC. I considered doing the event early but my interest wained due to my current boat; Hobie 18. If I proceed w/ a class 4 option, I know for sure the NC race is in my future. Sail, paddle and row... one way or another you'll all get there.
We will cover this at the captains meeting, but for spectators the route has several options.
You have to use the Harlow Canal to get to CP1. It is an intentional filter.
After clearing CP1 you have to enter Core Sound and head north. You can use Salter's Creek or the Thorofare to cross over to CP2. We will also allow you to go all the way around Cedar Island if you don't want to take these shorter routes.
After clearing CP2 you can take any route you want to CP3.
After clearing CP3 you can take any route you want to the finish.
The original intent of the course was to take the Alligator/Pungo from CP2 to CP3. Then take the outside route in Pamlico sound for CP3 to the finish. This gives a figure 8 course for the event. But we allow a lot of latitude so the challengers can choose the safest route depending on weather.
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