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(SOLD) Laser II Elite for Sale

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Started 4 years ago by MicroTom
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MicroTom
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I bought this recreational version of a Laser II after watching the video below. I have aspirations of doing some similar gunkhole crusing and maybe a WaterTribe event in a planing boat but after sailing it at my local club I was hooked and I decide to upgrade to the full racing version that comes with a symetrical spinnaker and trapeze. (yes I bought another boat)

This one has a very solid hull with foils that are in great shape. This one is from the mid 1980s. I have a set of older sails for it. One of the great things about this boat is that you can still buy a new main and jib from Intensity Sails online for $335.00 which is rediculously cheap for new sails on any racing boat. Hull and old suit of sails are offered at $1350. I would prefer to keep my trailer but if you need one to complete the sale then I will consider selling. I am putting it on WaterTribe for a few days before posting it elsewhere.

One of the shrouds is worn and will need replacing. I have a call into DuckworksBBS. Just waiting on them to return from the Texas 200 so I can get the right parts to make one. That is the only issue with this boat. It will likely be replaced before selling. Just putting it out for full disclosure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KER2chyjPY

Call or email me if interested. tom@dyll.com or 782-1017 (area code is 407)

Posted 4 years ago #
Feks
Member

I had a Lazer as my 1st sail boat in the mid 80 s , it was the smaller one with the radial rig a lot of fun to race and as tom mentiond very afordabel we wher still making new sails for them in 2005 in the loft i worked in
One question, is ict worth considering yousing Dynema stays on it? In resent munths iv made up dyneema stays for about 5 crusing traler sailers

Posted 4 years ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Mic, I am no expert on dyneema stays. I will leave that one up to the next owner to decide.

Another great video showing how easy it to sail this boat. Looks to be about a 10 year old boy singled handed on a trapeeze and planing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TEg3RDIcHo

Posted 4 years ago #
DonKeyHoTey
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Feks, I don't think dyneema stays would be Laser2 Class-legal but should work well (also good for the trapezes). Would likely need different terminal hardware and a different method for adjusting their tension. Probably best to pay up for the heat-treated dyneema to minimize "creep", and to make allowance for some stretch in the shroud when the terminal splices "set".

Many folks don't realize how incredibly strong dyneema is, particularly the newest types, and I understand that due to its unusual set/stretch characteristics (at least the "older" dyneemas), operating tension should exceed some significant percentage of breaking strength, and therefore one should not go fatter than necessary. Which "seems" scary thin -- I'm guessing MAX 2.5mm.

But I'm no expert on this, either ;) If anyone has more specific knowledge on this, I'm interested, for making up some stays with loads similar to the LaserII's.

DKHT

Posted 4 years ago #
Ridgerunner
Member

I'm in Maine right now. I would like to get it for the camp where I work. The camp is in the NC mountains. I'll call them tomorrow.

Doug

Posted 4 years ago #
Feks
Member

Im sold on Dynema, and yes the end terminals need to be changed, on biger traler sailers iv set up yousing robertson marine terminals , ther a bit fidly to initialy set up but grate , iv just re fited a drascom lugger and yoused a cascade system to tention and ajust the stays. Your right about geting the treated dynema, i realy like the sampson amsteel, its hard to get in Australia but beter than the local stuff. And yes the working lode has diferant properties than steel and it is easy to overdo the sizing.

Posted 4 years ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Doug, I am headed a little north of Macon GA on Friday let me know if I should bring it up.

Posted 4 years ago #
Ridgerunner
Member

The Director at camp says not now. Sorry.

Posted 4 years ago #
SambaSailor
Member

The Dyneema material has been upgraded over the last few years from SK75 to SK78, then SK90 (high strength, low stretch, minimal creep) to the latest SK99 which is even less creep. We have used it for dinghy shrouds, A-Cats, small trailer sailers, and some classic boats. Maffioli, an Italian rope company we import, has a product called Ultra-wire which is a low helix angle SK90 braid with a tight Dyneema cover that is used for backstays on boats like the J-111. The single braid 12 strand products like Samson Amsteel and New England Endura 12 are easy to splice and can be used for virtually any control lines that were previously done with flexible wire.

Posted 4 years ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Here is another example for sale in Jupiter FL. I believe this is the rigging that was used on the Laser 2 that won the very first EC. http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/boa/5027775653.html

Good history here http://www.shortypen.com/sailboats/escape-expedition-sailboat-first-watertribe-challenge/

Mine is priced below half of this one for a WaterTriber buyer.

Posted 4 years ago #
Abaloney
Member

The early Laser 2 used too have a 2-piece mast with diamond shrouds.Does yours have a 2-piece mast?

Posted 4 years ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Yes it's 2 piece mast. The "Elite" version did not have the diamond shrouds. Only the standard rigging. I have sailed it hard in 15 - 20 on plane flying past the rest of my local fleet (except the multi-hulls :-). It's a strong setup.

Posted 4 years ago #
DodgebirdII
Member

I did the 2014 NCC solo in my Laser 2. Great boat for the challenge, though stepping/unstepping the stayed mast at the bridges was a bit of a drag.

Some videos here - https://vimeo.com/user26203189

Check out the waccamaw clip to get an idea of how fun these boats can be in a breeze. I have a telescoping tiller ext. that can get me out solo on the wire...

Posted 4 years ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Great video! I had to watch it multiple times. Lots of questions.

Noticed you had something in the spinnaker chute but didn't pull it out or see the pole. No plan to use it during the race?

I couldn't make out your roller fulring jib setup. I played around with the same thing on mine. First attemp didn't work great. I frayed the luff wire. Still tweaking the setup. Let me know if you have any pointers.

I also liked you paddling options looked very effective. Let me know if you have any other advice for adventure sailing the Laser 2.

BTW, I am sure if you would have put down the camera you would have won Class 4 overall!

Posted 4 years ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Shrouds have been replaced. Thanks DuckworksBBS!

Boat is also on Craigslist with new pictures:

http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/5104298160.html

Posted 4 years ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Craigslist ad has been updated to include a trailer. And for some silly reason I didn't increase the price.

Posted 4 years ago #

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