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Roger Mann aka "JollyRoger" solo male class 3. Self built expedition canoe/ trimaran. 19' long, 225 lbs unloaded.
EC2013 Race Report "JollyRoger"
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Posted 8 years ago #
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What rig do you have for her? How many sea trails have you preformed? What perfromance do you expect? Look forward to seeing her and you on the beach.
Posted 8 years ago # -
http://watertribe.org/jollyroger/ Thanks guys, There are some photos on the watertribe blog plus some details. I have yet to get her in seas but I try to get out in the heaviest weather that we have on the largest lake around. Seen very mild weather so far- 2' wind waves and 20 kt wind. Rig is a Hobie TI including the folding akas so performance is about the same. Currently I am getting her on the water every afternoon just after work for a 2 hour pedal/ paddle/ sail mostly to fine tune equipment and placement. Taking Toby's advise on that. So I am taking it easy and trying to get my head ready. Can't wait to get on the beach and see everyone and looking forward to meeting new tribers.
Roger
Headed out now with 2-3 inches of snow and cold!
Posted 8 years ago # -
Interesting idea, the "skegs" on the inflatable amas. I assume they are rather like little leeboards dropped from the solid piece lashed across the tops of the amas? A big leeboard/daggerboard is needed for good ww work, of course, but these might reduce some leeway in water too shallow to drop a 4% board? -- Wade
Posted 8 years ago # -
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Wade, The bases of the skegs are glued on and the skegs slide in and are pinned in place so that they can be removed or replaced. Above are the items mentioned. You are 100% correct about a board. Since I have a mirage drive I can lock the fins straight down and also get alittle "board" type of assistance but I get even better results when I just pedal the drive and motor sail. I do lose ground without a board but it has been a compromise to keep down the weight. They do seem to work well enough and as you mentioned in shallow water. I have two installed but it may do better with 3?
Roger
Thanks, Bob
Posted 8 years ago # -
Wow, glued on fins, I had not heard of these. Thanks, and goodluck in EC2013! -- Wade
Posted 8 years ago # -
CleanSlate wrote:
Shouldn't this be a class 5 for the same reasons a Hobie AI or TI is a class 5?
I would tend to say no for two reasons. First, all the sailing bits can be stored inside the boat and it can then be paddled as-is. Second, there is no hull piercing board (centerboard or daggerboard).
On the flip side, class 3 is defined as starting life as a "standard" kayak or canoe. This center hull may stretch that definition, but someone will decide for sure at inspection.
Posted 8 years ago # -
You guys are sharp, but trust me I consulted with Chief the whole time this ship was being built in order to ensure it met class 3 rules.To much time and money to leave at chance to be in the class that you want. It meets the rules because of no hull piercing board and because the amas are inflatable(that's the biggy) and everything can be stored below deck just like a Kruger. It is a two seat decked canoe/angus exp rowboat firstly (I hope to do the WW) and Trimaran second. Also the mirage drive has been used in a Kruger class 3 before, Pelican in his UF finish in 2006. My boat was built for a UF attempt in 2014 so the EC should be a good test to start with.
As a note I had a Hobie Island that I put Chiefs ama's on, relocated the board, closed the hull slot for the dagger and was going to run as class 3 but now since they have their own class I would stick to standard Hobie stuff and run Hobie class. That is more fair than running in class 5 against the Beach cats. But the point is that it would meet class 3 rules, just much tougher to stow the extras below deck. Now Islanders don't have to be concerned and are happy to have their own class I'm sure.
Roger
Posted 8 years ago # -
Update, made it to the start. Boat is on the beach and ready for the launch tomorrow morning. Can't wait., ready to do it and push my boundries.
Jollyroger
Posted 8 years ago # -
Good looking boat Roger, good luck this year!!
Posted 8 years ago # -
Last EC2013 race report for JollyRoger- Please see my watertribe blog at- http://watertribe.org/jollyroger/
You may have guessed that I am finally at home and ready to get back to work tomorrow morming- :( but thank you watertribe and all those supporters along the way. Great experience.
Watertribe story to follow. Thanks for your interest. , Roger Mann
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