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Started 6 years ago by Wingkeel
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Wingkeel
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JoeVanGeaux,

I didn't know about coffee and boiling water being a no-no. I've always poured in the coffee, followed by boiling water to make my French Press coffee. I'll have to try it your way and see if I notice a difference in taste.

You're right about Systems. I bought a "system" from Costco a few years back for $12.99 and needed a part that got lost. The part turned out to be $11.99 plus shipping and was the weak-point in the system. Planned obsolescence? You'd have a hard time convincing me otherwise.

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JoeVanGeaux
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Wingkeel, its not a "no-no", per se, but if, for example, you were raised on percolated coffee you may not find it as offensive (as I do). Alternately, you won't complain much either if you can tolerate certain really popular brands - but I would have to be cajoled and dragged into participating any further in that debate!

Over the decades there have been inumerable articles trying to besmudge (hah! my first time ever for writing that word!) coffee. At each turn, there often followed another article seemingly exonerating coffee. The bottom line is that coffee actually does have some scientifically sound benefits (and challenging side-effects, of course) and maybe not entirely by coincidence, those benefits seem to mesh up with what many have come to accept as "the way" to make coffee.

Though I'd like to think I was objective and smart enough to know the difference between a real psycho-physiological effect (sensed as some benefit by consuming coffee) and a placebo effect, I have decided that even if its entirely a placebo effect, then I'm good with that too - since the soul wants what the soul wants!

Posted 6 years ago #
Wingkeel
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JoeVanGeaux,

Don't I know it! For me, I'm usre it's more psychological but if I don't get my morning coffee, I don't feel "complete". There is just something about stopping for a cp of coffee, even from a thermos that does the trick. Afterward, life just seems to be better; looks, smells and feels better. While I love my coffee at home, when on the water, I just feel like sitting back and relaxing for a few minutes while I thoroughly enjoy my cup-o-joe. Afterward, I giggle a little, laugh a lot, sing out loud, and don't care who hears me.

I am a soldier from a soldier, from a soldier...you get the point. I grew up on ranch coffee where the pot was made on Sunday morning. Each consecutive morning another two handfuls of coffee are added along with a handfull of crushed eggshells. By Saturday morning, you can stick a spoon in it and the spoon will stand...LOL. All kidding aside, by Saturday morning, you can use the stuff to degrease engines and while it is markinally okay hot, is not even tolerable cold because of the oily-scum that forms on the surface. When My ole-man retired, I entered the service and continued my love-hate relationship with coffee. It wasn't till after I got out of the Military after ten-years, that I found out there is a whole 'nuther side to coffee.

Thanks for the great explanation. I'm going to try it your way this afternoon and will let you know if I notice any difference between the battery-acid I drink and coffe for more refined palets...LOL.

Posted 6 years ago #
JoeVanGeaux
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Cant' wait to hear about your experience. For me to claim my palate is refined would be presumptuous. Its all a matter of personal taste and a bit of what you can get accustomed to. I despise some of the most highly advertized coffees out there and it seems the more a product is marketed as "gourmet", the less likely it seems I will be able to drink it!

A few years back, the building peeps at work who were in charge of buying the coffee staged a (rigged) contest to pick the best coffee for all the offices. (They just wanted to buy a cheaper coffee, of course.) They didn't even include, in this so-called contest, what we already were having and enjoying.

Seeing the coffee stains on the wall, I went attended the contest and voted "none" on my ballot card - and that was done in all honesty. They picked the winners and that's what we got. The best I could say of one of the choices is that it didn't stimulate seizures. After many weeks and doubling the strength when we brewed it, I actually began to tolerate it - but not at all once it passed about 45 minutes - and that was very much to my surprise.

Posted 6 years ago #
Wingkeel
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The coffee I buy is allways on sale for around $4.50 a pound and comes in a sealed bag at the grocery store. Sometimes it's ground and sometimes it's whole-bean. If it's whole bean, I grind (misnomer) it in the Vitamix till it's finer than normal grind). I use the larger French Press and use two heaping tablespoons followed by boiling water. In the 20oz coffee cup, I put about an ounce of sweet creamer and a heaping tablespoon of hot-chocolate mix before using a wisk between my palms to froth the mix. Then I add the coffee and let sit for a couple minutes while I get ready to begin homework. This is all done around 4:30-5:00a.m. every morning. It takes me till about 10:00 to finish the carafe of coffee, put everything away and begin my work day.

If I'm riding for endurance on the bicycle (50+ miles), I'll make another carafe of stronger coffee, let it cool and pour it over ice into two 200oz water bottles to suppliment the 100-ounces of water in my CamelBack. Coffee inhibits the body's ability to utilize "instant energy" sugars stored in the muscles, saving it for later in the ride when I'm beginning to "wind down". I find it's a great strategy for any endurance ride when I anticipate not getting into the anaerobic zone, above 80% max-heartrate or over 190-watts power-output. Most people call this the "fat-burn" mode, which is why I like to ride endurance in this mode. While it still burns the same number of calories, in the aerobic-zone, I burn fat and not sugars as I would in the anaerobic zone (not that you could tell by my waiste-line...LOL).

I quit drinking coffee once. It was the longest hour of my life! All kidding aside, I did quit for more than two-years after a Tony Robbin's (Ultimat Power Within) Seminar. I had the worst four-day headache of my life! I eventually went back to coffee when I decided to get off Adderall. Even though Adderall was magic stuff for homework, I didn't want to do anything else BUT work or homework and quickly became a really boring person. I sacrificed work and homework for family and friends; not a good trade...well, mabe sometimes...LOL. Coffee helps me to concentrate and stay focused on the task at hand without "loosing myself" in the process AND it becomes part of the homework or dissertation pre-regiment that gets my brain-juices flowing before I actually sit down and begin my research. While slow-released Adderall is working for up to twelve-hours, the effects of coffee is over after three hours when static and 20-minutes or less when on the bike in anaerobic training. Coffee also allows me to remain well rounded and able to balance school, work and play while still keeping the big picture in sharp focus; someting I couldn't do when I was on Adderall. While on Adderall, I would have never considered attempting the EC! Adderall made me more "normal", removing much of the impulsive aspects that make me who I am, such as jumping out of bed a 3:00a.m. for a "quick" 4-hour nighttime paddle to the bridge and back. Although I still drive my wife BONKERS she still likes me a lot more off Adderall than on Adderall. The worst part of not being on Adderall is that...oh look at that pretty bird...what's that wire doing on the ground...what was I talking about...LOL.

Sorry to get off-topic. It comes with the territory and helps to explain my love-relationship with coffee

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