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1. 

   Mistukendingier
   Member

   Just wondering how these are defined?  

   Can anyone point out any examples, either comercialy availible or home made?

    

   Thanks, Woody

   Posted 6 years ago #
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   FalconSails
   Member

   I do not think sponsons of any kind are allowed in Class 1.
   Though you need to confirm that.

   I saw Clueless use hobie side kick amas in the 2014 EC.
   See
   http://www.amazon.com/Hobie-Kayak-Sidekick-AMA-Green/dp/B003RX4NAK

   They took an a signifcant amount of stress crossing steep breaking waves in Ponce De Leon Bay.
   It was the kind of ride that you quickly become soaked.
   I was afraid they where going to break or he may go over.  They where good.   
   I guess he reinforced the attacment points.  I would consider that also.

   Posted 6 years ago #
3. 

   KayakVagabond
   Member

   Google "kayak sponsons" and you will get a lot of hits (such as the image below).   I have an old pair of "Sea Wings", made by Voyageur, I believe. You have to rig the attachment clips on the kayak before-hand. When installed they provide a large amount of stability. 

    

   

   Posted 6 years ago #
4. 

   FalconSails
   Member

   Sponsons.
   I think I got my last post wrong.

   I have a few questions.
   Are these okay for class 1 ?  I suppose they are okay.
   Have you seen people use these for class 1 ?
   I wonder if I could get a cat nap with calm water in my 18x sport. ?
   It is probably a bad idea, but it is worth pondering.

   Posted 6 years ago #
5. 

   KayakVagabond
   Member

   It's always best to get Chief's input but according to the Watertribe Boat Classes (on the new webpage), sponsons are allowed for Class 1 (Expedition Kayaks and Canoes) and Class 3 (Sailing Kayaks and Canoes) with the provision that "All sailing equipment including sponsons must be removable and stowable in a seaworthy manner."

   My understanding is that Class 2 (Racing Kayaks and Canoes) does allow gullwings, etc, but no mention is made of sponsons in the rules for that class.

   Falcon, to answer your question, sponsons, sometimes combined with paddle float outriggers, have been used by some expedition kayakers to rest at sea during long crossings in relatively good weather.

   Posted 6 years ago #
6. 

   JollyRoger
   Member

   http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/class-2-rule-update 

   found the update info for class two in case anyone needs that info.

   Posted 6 years ago #
7. 

   Mistukendingier
   Member

   Can any one tell me about this set up on the blue decked Kruger?  The photo is from this years Okumefest.

   http://hudsonriverpaddler.org/2014/05/19/watertribe-ultramarathon-results/

    

   

   Posted 6 years ago #
8. 

   Yakmandu
   Member

   Here is a link to the sponsons in the picture...

   http://www.revolutionrowing.com/rowing-equipment/rowing-set-stabilizing-pontoons.html

   I have used these for the last few EC/NCC races. This setup put me in Class 3. I did replace the factory mounting brackets with a fiberglass wrapped solution. I think this Watertriber is using the rear cat tubes on his Kruger.

   I have found them to be sturdy and a perfect size for a kayak. They are about 33 inches long and offer about 15 pounds of buoyancy, quite adequate when mounted on a 3 to 4 foot aka.

   Yakmandu

   Posted 6 years ago #
9. 

   Mistukendingier
   Member

   Hello all, I'm revisiting this as I actually have a boat now. The Harmony and Seawing style inflatable sponsons are presently un availible. My question today, is whether something like the the Hobie inflatable pontoon rig would be Class 1 legal in the same way Gull Wings are Class 2 legal. I was thinking of rigging them so that they are above the water as training wheels when sailing down wind, and the extra windage won't be a problem, and have a way to quickly stow for paddling, or deploy for stability or reentry after swamping.

   Posted 1 month ago #
10. 

    Mistukendingier
    Member

    Hello all, I'm revisiting this as I actually have a boat now. The Harmony and Seawing style inflatable sponsons are presently un availible. My question today, is whether something like the the Hobie inflatable pontoon rig would be Class 1 legal in the same way Gull Wings are Class 2 legal. I was thinking of rigging them so that they are above the water as training wheels when sailing down wind, and the extra windage won't be a problem, and have a way to quickly stow for paddling, or deploy for stability or reentry after swamping.

    Posted 1 month ago #
11. 

    BustedRudder
    Member

    Yakmandu is correct about the picture.

    Chief needs to weigh in on your question.
    You are straying into class 3 when you have a rig that helps you sail downwind or has any structure of support other than clipping onto the side of the boat for "temporary" support.

    If chief had used "safety sponson" it would be more clear the intent is to allow an individual to get out of a situation not augment the stability of the boat long term.
    IMO

     

    Posted 1 month ago #
12. 

    Mistukendingier
    Member

    I hunted around and found a picture of Yakmandu's boat. He also had Bruce Foils on the out riggers.  If I squint my eyes enough the rules look to be restricting lateral resistance, more so than capsize resistance. 

    Posted 1 month ago #

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