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DragonSlayer
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Last night after a wonderful afternoon of rowing/sailing I got sideswiped going around a corner by a lady who thought the road was straight. The side of the car is bashed in.

Here are the photos of the boat which broke the tie-down strap and pulled out the winch strap. Not sure if it is recoverable or not. Worried about deck damage or other damage I can't see, and I had a short piece of aluminum mast in the forward hole for tieing the masts to. The masts are also bent with one bent over the other. Not sure if the right answer is to ask insurance for replacement cost of boat or which way to go on this. Oh trailer wheel/axel broke off shocks what not on one side.

Also engine fuel leaked all over boat because outboard was but in boat after it got picked up, not sure what damage ethanol did to stuff.

Are the masts repairable?

Should I even try to make the race this weekend?

Where do I go/tell insurance etc, any tips for dealing with Progressive?

http://cumberlandsound.blogspot.com/ Photos are posted here

Posted 8 years ago #
KiwiBird
Member

DragonSlayer, my heart bleeds for you!

KB

Posted 8 years ago #
Chief
Coastal Vagabond

Sorry to hear about all the damage. Hopefully your insurance or her insurance will set things right.

Should you try and make the race? Yes.

Posted 8 years ago #
PlumbCrazy
Member

I am so sorry to hear about the accident! It is my deepest nightmare to have something similar happen on my way to the EC! Hope you get it all straightened out so I can see you at Ft. Desoto!

Posted 8 years ago #
LeatherLungs
Member

I can only imagine your disappointment! I hope you find a way to still make the race . . .

Posted 8 years ago #
Badger
Member

Name time & place to organize a work party. Can bring tools, willing spirit, even distilled spirits...

Posted 8 years ago #
DragonSlayer
Member

How to unbend masts?

Posted 8 years ago #
Ridgerunner
Member

Where ate they bent? Give Graham a call - his experience is very helpful and willingly given.

Posted 8 years ago #
DragonSlayer
Member

The bend is near the top of the mizzen mast. I'm in St. Mary's GA if anyone has any ideas how to get this fixed by Wen?

Or call me tonight 912-322-2661

Posted 8 years ago #
AlexO
Member

You should try and make the race as Chief said. If the hull is not cracked you have time to do fixes. Structural damages can be seen I think in and open boat and taken care of. There were vessels salvaged after hitting the reefs in the Florida Keys.

Posted 8 years ago #
MisterMoon
Member

Heartbreaking. If it were me, I'd probably cut off the mizzen where it's bent and sleeve and rivet in a new section. The other option is cutting the mizzen off and making a wooden topmast, fitting the new wood bit down inside the existing aluminum section. I think this is how Ridgerunner's masts are made. I'll try and call you after 9 pm.

Posted 8 years ago #
SambaSailor
Member

Dragonslayer, sorry to hear of your mishap. If the mast is not kinked you can probably straightern it by levering it back. When you find two strong points to lever against, place some wood or other material to spread the load on the tube at the contact points. I have straightened masts up to a 36' boat. as long as the bend area does not have a kink it can be successful...it might not be perfect but it will work for the race. If you have questions, call me in the morning at 401 301 0357 or 401 253 4858 x 1521 My business is building spars. If you have pictures that will help, Phil Garland

Posted 8 years ago #
SambaSailor
Member

Dragonslayer, sorry to hear of your mishap. If the mast is not kinked you can probably straightern it by levering it back. When you find two strong points to lever against, place some wood or other material to spread the load on the tube at the contact points. I have straightened masts up to a 36' boat. as long as the bend area does not have a kink it can be successful...it might not be perfect but it will work for the race. If you have questions, call me in the morning at 401 301 0357 or 401 253 4858 x 1521 My business is building spars. If you have pictures that will help, Phil Garland

Posted 8 years ago #
MisterMoon
Member

I just got off the phone with Dragonslayer.

We can fix his mizzen by cutting it off and riveting in a sleeve and a new peice on top. Luckily it's only the top 2 feet or so of the mast that's messed up and that's not a particularly stressed area.

We can fix this at Desoto on Thursday if we can source some 2" diameter 6061 T6 with a 0.065 wall thickness. I'm going to scour the Atlanta area tomorrow. If anyone else has a local source, let's hear about it and help get Dragonslayer on the starting line on Saturday.

Posted 8 years ago #
PlumbCrazy
Member

I have some 1.5 inch aluminum thick walled pipe that I bought from metal supermarket in Marietta.

Posted 8 years ago #
MisterMoon
Member

Thanks to PlumbCrazy's lead, I may have found some tubing for you. Will know more tomorrow.

Posted 8 years ago #
DragonSlayer
Member

There might be some other twisting but the worst is on the top where it twisted over the other mast.

Posted 8 years ago #
PlumbCrazy
Member

Should be able to get what you need at Metal Supermarkets at a decent price. I know they have the require dimensions in stock.

Posted 8 years ago #
DragonSlayer
Member

Would it be simplier to pay someone to put together new masts with local material and just bring them down with there boat? I can get 2.5" material locally still I think. It would just mean piecing together bottom part and putting on tracks at camp site.

Posted 8 years ago #
Scareman
Member

I have to go to a machine shop first thing this morning for an urgent fab job for an installation tomorrow. I'll check there.

Also another shop I work with is right behind my plant. They should return my call once they get out of Monday morning meetings

Posted 8 years ago #
MisterMoon
Member

Fabbing new masts is more that I personally have time for. I still think splicing in a new top section on the mizzen would be the easiest and fastest solution while still being structurally sound. All we need to do is find the right size tubeand cut off a piece about 2' long for the internal sleeve. We need to rip about 1/4" lengthwise out of this piece to fit it inside the old mast and the new section. I'd just do this on my tablesaw. We'd shove it in there, drill holes and rivet it all together. Voila, good as new!

Posted 8 years ago #
Scareman
Member

Local shop has 2 pieces of 6061 2" 0.065" wall. one 12' stick and another 34" piece.

Let me know if you want this.

Before we say go, measure twice and cut once.

Scareman 2 Two Nine 3 Four 4 Five 6 One 9

Posted 8 years ago #
MisterMoon
Member

I've struck out here in Atlanta. Dragonslayer, let us know if you want to go with Scare's find.

Posted 8 years ago #
SambaSailor
Member

Dragonslayer, I have numerous short pieces of 2" diameter by .065 wall by 3-4' long and some spi pole lengths about 6-8' long...I can check to see exactly what they are if you want to let me know the lengths you need. Phil Garland

Posted 8 years ago #
CaptnChaos
Member

I have a small garage workshop in Clearwater about 30 minutes N of Ft. Desoto. I have tig, mig, plasma cutter, some woodworking tools, scrap aluminum/steel, etc. so anyone needing to do last minute repairs/fabrication is welcome to my garage. I won't do the welding as I'm an amateur but water tribers are welcome to use anything I have. I'll be helping with registration on Friday.

Jim

727 265 0381 (cell)

Posted 8 years ago #
DragonSlayer
Member

Scareman let me know where you are located or call me at 912-322-2661.

lightin(phil) has some in RI or something but it would require shipping it or flying it down. Edward

Posted 8 years ago #
Scareman
Member

I got a hold of Dragonslayer. I am awaiting his call to get aluminum from local shop. I may need to drop this at a site Wed/Thurs as I shuttle to Key Largo.

Posted 8 years ago #
DragonSlayer
Member

Don't worry about aluminum... With second, third fourth and fifth looks from qualifed people we think the masts can be straightened sort of with a little help. I got the boat out of the tow lot and over to the St. Mary's Boaryard parked in front of the fiberglass shop. Mabel (best glass person withing 60 miles) is going to do a quote for insurance for paint and everything.

We did find one additinional nasty crack two inches above water line in forward PORT seat tank. The wood is splintered inside but it looks like 10ounch cloth on outside saved it there. I think a tempoerary repair can be done. It's probaly going to be underwater for most of the morning going down the coast with current winds.

Underneith on bow we found a area rubbed raw by tow truck trailer and various damage on keel stringer board. I miight ignore and just goat with some epoxy on this as it is serperated from rest of boat by some serious epoxy filler.

Posted 8 years ago #
Meatloaf
Member

Ask Progressive for a Constructive Total Loss ... CTL and then the option to buy it back.

After the Race of course!

Posted 8 years ago #
DragonSlayer
Member

Boat is in yard, appraiser looked at it, probably over $4000 of damage. Updated photos are at http://cumberlandsound.blogspot.com

Masts may not be to horrible.

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