2019 EC - Class 2 Roster and Discussion

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2019 EC - Class 2 Roster and Discussion

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Started 8 months ago by MicroTom
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MicroTom
Key Master

I am excited to be in class 2 next year but more excited to see all of the early entries. This should be fun.

So who is racing for time? Who is racing to finish? Who is just cruising????

17 entries in Class 2!

BeastOarman (aka Peter Oudheusden), Single Male, Kayak tbd, "No Comments"

BeaV (aka Bob Vollhaber), Single Male, Kruger Sea Wind' "I accept headwinds, I may curse Florida heat, I acknowledge some pain, I expect an adventure!"

Deke (aka Thomas Head), Single Male, Mill Creek 16.5, "No Comments"

Dusk2Dawn (aka Keith Fowler), Single Male, Stellar S18, "Started thinking of the next one the moment the last one ended. Should I seek professional help?"

Fishman (aka Kurt Fisher), Single Male, No Description Given, No Comments

GypsyPaddler (aka Gil Hidalgo), Single Male, TBD, "Die worn out, not rusted out!"

IronBob (aka Robert Finlay) and TheJuice (aka Druce Finlay) Double Male, The Black Boat, "Once more into the fray..."

JulianChandler (aka steven price), Single Male, 19' Rowcruiser rowboat., "Once again praying for a strong north wind, or no wind at all!"

Katamount (aka Kirsten Corcoran), Single Female, 18' kayak, "I WILL see you in Key Largo ;-)"

KayakVagabond (aka Greg Stamer), Single Male, Epic 18X Ultra or something faster, “Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far they can go.” -T.S Eliot

Knotsynced (aka Geoffrey Chambers), Single Male, CD Extreme, No Comments

MicroTom (aka Tom Dyll), Single Male, Savage River Falcon, "New boat, new class, new adventure"

OneEyedJake (aka Andy Bartley), Class 2, Single Male, Seaward Ascente', No Comments

PrivateHam (aka Michael Prince), Single Male, MicroTom's cool camo Mad River Monarch, "Downsizing to a new class"

StripBuilder (aka John Craun), Single Male, Strip built sea kayak, "I hope the red tide clears up!"

ToHoTim (aka Timothy Finkenbinder ) , Single Male, Pilgrim Expedition - 17' (subject to change), "I can not, not do it!"

veteranvoyage360 (aka Josh Collins), Single Male, Starboard Sprint 14'x 25" Stand Up Paddleboard, "Here's to warm'er water! Hoping to complete this year on a stock 14ft Stand up Padsleboard and to encourage more SUPs to the party....and which Chief will love most...more SUPs!"

Posted 8 months ago #
BeaV
Member

Hi MicroTom,

Yup I haven't committed yet. Concentrating on and distracted by the upcoming Minnesota events and will have to survive that first.

I will say this about the EC, last year's goal of catching a python went unfulfilled.

Posted 8 months ago #
KayakVagabond
Member

Haven't decided if I'm entering class 1 or 2. If class 2 it would be soley to avoid those blasphemous sails. Maybe we need a class 1a SAIL, class 1b NO SAIL, and leave class 2 for the actual high performance racing designs (skis, narrow racing kayaks, etc). Probably not enough "true class 2" to split it up, however.

Greg

Posted 8 months ago #
Deerfly
Member

BeaV wrote:

Hi MicroTom,

Yup I haven't committed yet. Concentrating on and distracted by the upcoming Minnesota events and will have to survive that first.

I will say this about the EC, last year's goal of catching a python went unfulfilled.

beav, the slithery invaders may have been tipped off about your knoiff and your intentions...

Posted 8 months ago #
Deerfly
Member

Tom,

I flip flop all the time between the idea of going hard or just being happy to finish. As a first timer, its all fantasy anyway. I think I need a few extended coastal trips for the reality of what completing the EC entails to sink in. After a few multi day trips I'll either be inspired to train harder or just be content to find a way to get to the finish before the tardy bell rings. And you know me, if I happen on to some rolling tarpon along the way I may get distracted...

Another angle you may not know yet either is Trey has expressed some interest in doing the EC with me. If he does the training runs and still wants to do the EC we will most likely pace ourselves together to enjoy the ride as much as possible with the idea of getting to KL in time too, but quality father son time will prevail.

Close to wrapping up the build after clear coat fiasco, will be calling to plan some training missions soon...

Posted 8 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

I updated my post. 13 entries in Class 2 right now. Its looking like a great bunch of paddlers.

Deerfly, Greyheron (not entered) and I paddled 25 miles in Waccasassa Bay State Preserve on Saturday. Its a remote area with almost no boat traffic due to the shallow oyster lined coast and no decent places to stop. Good training run. Between the heat of the day and the afternoon thunderstorms we got some insight into how much it hurts when you push the pace too much.

The new Savage River Falcon is performing well. I was very suprised how stable it has turned out to be. Its a completely different hull shape than anything else that I own. I cannot carry the larger load that I had on the Ultimate Florida in 2016 but it will carry the expedition load needed on the EC with room to spare. I am liking the new boat!

Deerfly had out his strip built Northwind. It was my first time seeing the boat. Its a work of art, creative design and engineering. He has built an increddibly well thought out boat. I am really impressed with it and expect him to be up to the challenge by the time the EC rolls around. If you haven't seen it pics are over here: http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/northwind-strip-build

So what have the rest of the Class 2 entries been up to? Let us know.

Posted 6 months ago #
BeaV
Member

KayakVagabond wrote:

Haven't decided if I'm entering class 1 or 2. If class 2 it would be soley to avoid those blasphemous sails. Maybe we need a class 1a SAIL, class 1b NO SAIL, and leave class 2 for the actual high performance racing designs (skis, narrow racing kayaks, etc). Probably not enough "true class 2" to split it up, however.

Greg

How about a class 1c NO SAIL, FAT CANOE for us canoers who must rely on persistance in lieu of speed. Just kidding, I'm good with not complicating things. I will continue to enter as class 2 "by human power only" class.

Posted 6 months ago #
Deerfly
Member

BeaV wrote:

How about a class 1c NO SAIL, FAT CANOE for us canoers who must rely on persistance in lieu of speed. Just kidding, I'm good with not complicating things. I will continue to enter as class 2 "by human power only" class.

good idea, but we need one more:

1d - NO SAIL, FAT CANOE, FAT PADDLER

Posted 6 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Three big names have registered. Beav, KayakVagabond, and Jolly Roger. There are 17 pure paddlers now. See you on the beach!

Posted 5 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Welcome aboard PrivateHam.

I am also planning on doing a Class 2 training run on the Indian River December 7-9. Basically I will give my GPS route and waypoints from New Smyrna to Jensen Beach to anyone who wants to paddle that area. After that you are on your own ;-) If your interested get in touch with me for details.

Posted 4 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Excerpt from an email sent out to several Tribers who I have paddled with before. Right now PrivateHam, Whale, Chief, JollyRoger, Jarhead, Whitecaps, DieTired, and Deerfly are in or expressed interest. I expect some will be in boats other than Class 2 and have their own agendas.

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As some of you might know I have decided to make things hard on myself and entered in Class 2 for the 2018 EC. Several others have signed up for the same self inflicted punishment. So for those reasons I am scheduling another long sail/paddle and inviting all of you.

My plan is to paddle down Mosquito Lagoon and the Indian River December 7-9. Same as last year I would like to to leave at day break and go north to south so that its not a repeat of the UFC course but if the weather is better for a south to north run we will reverse the route.

Like last year, I selected this distance and location for a couple of reasons. First its a good training run that will allow for approximately three 45 mile days. Second, plenty of free spoil islands are spaced almost perfectly to do these distances. Third, nice combination of open and protected water for Class 1-5 type rigs. Finally, I picked these dates because there is a favorable tides at the start should we go north to south.

This is a non-event. No sign up, after party, or anything else but if your interested it would be good to see others out there and possibly camp together.

If you think you may want to do this trip contact me for a copy of the course and some way points for islands and other points of interest.

Posted 4 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Welcome ChesapeakeTJAM. Doing it the hardway on a SUP.

Posted 4 months ago #
ChesapeakeTJAM
Member

Thanks for the welcome. This will be my first EC. I’m excited as this challenge is everything I look forward to. Yes, the SUP route will just add to an already brutal challenge but a finish in Key Largo, my former home is the goal.
I don’t know how to do anything other than the hard way.

Posted 4 months ago #
Conchistador
Member

SUP class please chief

Posted 4 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Welcome veteranvoyage360 on a 14' SUP

Posted 3 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Welcome Deke! Is that another wood strip boat?

Removed JollyRoger. Looks like he moved to Class 3.

JoeWildlife, Ditch that sail and come paddle with us!

Posted 3 months ago #
Deke
Member

It’s a stitch and glue kit from Chesapeake Light Craft, very similar dimensions to a Kruger.

Posted 3 months ago #
BustedRudder
Member

Been on the sidelines of this thread, watching the SUP people ask for a class, and thought I'd give my 2 cents.

Even if just a handful of SUPs entered, these people need their own class because anyone crazy enough to do a SUP in an EC deserves their own class!

Split class 1 into 2 classes. Class 1 with, Class 1 without as KayakVagabond pointed out. Once someone is doing that work, adding a SUP class is easy.

The vast majority of class 2 2019 with the exception of IB & Juice do not meet the requirements (ratio wise) of class 2.

Create the second class, move 17 or so boats from class 2 into class 1 without.

Where the work is, and to be fair, people from the record book would have to be migrated into the new class so there is a fair "record". Jungle Jim (the record holder for Class 1 without), followed by Kayak Vagabond, Beav, SpiritWalker, Mosquito magnet, tide traveller etc etc. Class 2 would be ArdieO / Carter Johnson etc.

Class 2 is intended for long skinny light boats. There are skis coming on the market that have storage below decks and there are kayaks in the 20-21' range that are contenders to chase Ardie O in class 2.

Why paddle an 18x in class 2 when you are out of the boat class Ardie O's and Carter used? Level the platying field.

Just saying

Posted 3 months ago #
KayakVagabond
Member

Agree with BustedRudder's comments (and keep in mind he is a keen paddler/sailor with the class 1 record, with sail).

Santa wishlist: :)
Class 1 with 1 meter sail "assist". (counts even if sail is carried but never deployed; can't have it both ways).
Class 1 without sail.
Class 2 no sail, only craft meeting the current length/beam ratio rule is allowed (length to beam ratio is greater than 10.99).

Posted 3 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Welcome BeastOarman!

Posted 3 months ago #
Chief
Coastal Vagabond

The length to beam ratio for class 2 is not a requirement. It might force a kayak into class 2 but it would not keep any kayak out that does not have a sail.

In class 1 you can have a downwind sail no larger than 1 square meter. Or not. The sail is allowed but it is not required.

SUPs without sails of any kind now have their own provisional sub-class within class 2. If you add any type of sail to a SUP, then you will go into class 1 or class 3 or class 4 depending on other factors.

I'll be happy to discuss all this sort of stuff when we are down at Key Largo. I don't plan to make any more changes at this time.

Posted 3 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

Welcome MrMako! Nice to see a Dreamcatcher in class 2.

Posted 3 months ago #
MrMako
Member

MicroTom: Not so fast, no sooner than I signed up and I have inflamed an old rotator cuff injury. Checking out options. I was pretty depressed when the realization hit, that this injury is going to keep me from doing an EC in style. PaddleDancer says that all of the Check Point Captains slots are full. I am thinking and plotting........

Posted 2 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

MrMako, When I first picked up my Dreamcatcher is was injuring my wrist by paddling to hard and with poor technique. It would take a week or more to go away. I was worried that it would prevent me from completing the UFC. Slowing down and working on my grip made a big difference. Over time I was able to get my speed up to where I wanted it but I still rely on ibuprofen from time to time.

There are lots of different canoe strokes and you can always favor one side over the other. Slowing down and working on your stroke will help build muscle around the old injury as well. I hope you are able to rehab that shoulder and still make it.

Posted 2 months ago #
MrMako
Member

MicroTom, thanks for the insight. This is well past that. Paddling was fine, even though I certainly have poor technique. This injury was done in the gym. I will be moving to Class 3 with a new ride. Starting to build it up tomorrow. It will be a week before sea trials. Actually changing everything makes the EC more fun because of the planning, and tweaking. Mr. Mako

Posted 2 months ago #
BeastOarman
Member

MicroTom, thanks for the welcome! I am a bit tentative still, paddling a slow pace to see if my back holds up.
So far so good!

Does anyone have thoughts about surfski sin the EC? Training in a V7, nice ride, but thinking the wetness would get old real quick?

- Beast

Posted 2 months ago #
MicroTom
Key Master

A few people have dropped or changed classes. We are down from 20 to 17. Still a very respectable number of dedicated paddlers.

Drums are beating loudly now. A few of us kick of 2019 doing the Frogman 5k swim in Tampa Bay this weekend. Others are doing the WaterTribe bootcamp at Fort Desoto.

Where ever you are. Do you your prep work. Getting to the beach is at least half or more of the challenge.

Posted 2 months ago #
BeaV
Member

Thanks for the reminder MicroTom on the "prep" work...the training I don't mind but looking at maps and tide information I haven't done yet. Planning kind of bores me, unlike most people I think, so I have been putting it off.

Looking forward to start day! My paddle and I are ready now!

Posted 2 months ago #
Conchistador
Member

BeaV wrote:

Thanks for the reminder MicroTom on the "prep" work...the training I don't mind but looking at maps and tide information I haven't done yet. Planning kind of bores me, unlike most people I think, so I have been putting it off.

Looking forward to start day! My paddle and I are ready now!

i love the planning almost as much as i love the paddling

Posted 2 months ago #

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