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		<title>WaterTribe Forums &#187; Topic: Two Reefs</title>
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			<title>ZeroTheHero on "Two Reefs"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3888</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ZeroTheHero</dc:creator>
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	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=e_gCHvaz988" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=e_gCHvaz988</a></p>
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	Ask this guy.&#160; Racing in the Figaro Solo around France.&#160; They sail right through the area at the begining of the vid the op put up.&#160; Hope this works</p>]]></description>
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			<title>mistermoon on "Two Reefs"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3874</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<cite>Etchemin <a href="http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3857">wrote</a>:</cite></p>
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		Will two reefs help here or just good judgemnet?</p>
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		<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=T4FIS1FnOQg">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=T4FIS1FnOQg</a><span>&#160;</span></p>
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		Etch</p>
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	&#160;I&#039;m seasick just from sitting here watching that at my desk. Definite do-not-lauch conditions!</p>
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	I think lugnut raised a good point here regarding putting the reefing on the inspection checklist. It needs to be there and the skippers need to be able demonstrate how they will reef&#160;if there&#039;s&#160;doubt about&#160;whether or not&#160;something will work&#160;or if the inspector isn&#039;t sure the skipper knows what he&#039;s doing. &#160;</p>
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	I was witness to one of the situations at the start this year that prompted this whole string. Chief stopped a boat from leaving the beach because they the didn&#039;t have a reef tied in their main nor was there any gear apparent that would allow them to do so. The came back and started working on it. What I saw them do didn&#039;t look right to me and left some doubt they knew what they were doing. Had this been noticed at inspection, they&#160;could have demonstrated their technique then and there and any deficiencies noted and corrected.</p>
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	I still don&#039;t beleive a reef is needed in a secondary sail like lugnut&#039;s 12 square foot mizzen, but I&#039;ll abide by whatever rules that are in place at the time. THis would not apply on my CS17 where&#160;the mizzen accounts for something like 45% of my sail area and it definitely needs two reefs. FWIW, I sailed practically the entire UM double reefed this year. I never felt overpowered even in the 30kt gusts on Saturday afternoon. I stayed the heck off the water when it blew 40&#039;s on Sunday morning.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>roo on "Two Reefs"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3873</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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	I am always amazed that there is some resistance to having two reefs in mainsails or mizzens. What a lot of people do not understand is that wind pressure goes up by the square of the speed. For instance if you are sailing fine at 15 knots and feeling invincible, suddenly if the wind speed goes to 30 knots, you have four times the pressure on the sails.</p>
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	If you are at all competetive, what are you doing here; if you are not, then why would not want to be able set the optimum sail for the conditions? On a sloop, just getting rid of the jib is not a good answer as usually the balance goes to hell and the weather helm can be overpowering. I am not sure that having a jib on roller furling is the right answer either. As Mister Moon pointed out, roller furling headsails are usually all or nothing, and having a smaller jib to keep the sloop balanced after the main is reefed is a good idea as well as a lot faster.</p>
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	Having one deep reef would make you underpowered a lot of the time as 20 knots is far more common than 30 knots but in a typical EC you will likely see both or as in this year a lot more.</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Etchemin on "Two Reefs"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3868</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Etchemin</dc:creator>
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	<span>I&#039;m thinking the legal term&#160;&#34;reasonable person&#34; would apply here.&#160;&#160; </span></p>
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	<span>Etch</span></p>]]></description>
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			<title>Scareman on "Two Reefs"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3867</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Scareman</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am glad somebody posted video of us crossing Tampa Bay during EC2012
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			<title>TwinSpirit on "Two Reefs"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3858</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 06:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>TwinSpirit</dc:creator>
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	Not sure about the reefs ,I want to see the rollers to get it off the Beach <img alt="Laughing" src="/smiles/lol.gif" title="Laughing" /></p>]]></description>
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			<title>Etchemin on "Two Reefs"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/two-reefs#post-3857</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 06:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Etchemin</dc:creator>
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	Will two reefs help here or just good judgemnet?</p>
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	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=T4FIS1FnOQg">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=T4FIS1FnOQg</a><span>&#160;</span></p>
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	Etch</p>]]></description>
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