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		<title>WaterTribe Forums &#187; Topic: Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds</title>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4834</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 02:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#38;v=bOzYhm_II3I&#38;list=ULbOzYhm_II3I">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=bOzYhm_II3I&#038;list=ULbOzYhm_II3I</a><span>&#160;</span></p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4746</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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	HI Uthred,</p>
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	&#160;</p>
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	&#160;The pas sail is a down wind sail and the&#160; pas sail is&#160; inefficient when trying to use it on a reach and it causes the kayak to heel.&#160;I would use a one meter Batwing to achieve&#160;more power and less heeling on a reach.&#160;Handling&#160; two sails&#160;is not that difficuilt. I have handled a&#160; 3&#160;masted&#160; schooner with&#160;3 BSD sails. The Batwing front sail acts as a jib feeding the next sail and the&#160;2nd sail feeds the 3rd&#160; when sailing closer to the wind and I &#160;was able to hit higher speeds and point closer to the wind. &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</p>
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	&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Maddave</p>
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			<title>Uthred on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4745</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Uthred</dc:creator>
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	I tried the BSD and PAS combo today to see how much more effective a headsail would make windward performance. &#160;I did not find handling a second sail to be overly complicated I did see where the PAS has its limitations. &#160;When you pull it back to either side, the end that is farthest away from the cockpit catches the wind if you try to point too far because it is on the windard side and not centered as the mast is, I suppose you could adjust the straps but you would have to do this for every tack. &#160; &#160;It does this much before the main sail starts to luff. &#160;</p>
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	Over all I found the performace difference to be minimal, I had to keep my main sail reefed with the second sail up to keep the amas above the water. &#160;Up here in Ontario it is still way too cold to break anything and go over!</p>
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			<title>Uthred on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4744</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Uthred</dc:creator>
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	Congrats on the Television spots Dave!&#160;</p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4742</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=GviLhAjNKsk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;v=GviLhAjNKsk</a></p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>
	Hi Watertribe,&#160;</p>
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	&#160;</p>
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	This was my first tv commercial that played in New York City. My marketing director star on this one. Do not ask her for her autograph. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;list=ULhqB96-srs7E&#038;v=hqB96-srs7E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&#038;list=ULhqB96-srs7E&#038;v=hqB96-srs7E</a></p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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	Hi Watertribe,</p>
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	&#160;</p>
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	Taught this boy how to sail when he was 12. Hard to believe he never gets lost. Flim off Cedar Island. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGJLxXR0xo&#38;list=ULMHGJLxXR0xo&#38;feature=player_detailpage">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGJLxXR0xo&#038;list=ULMHGJLxXR0xo&#038;feature=player_detailpage</a><span>&#160;</span></p>
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	&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Maddave</p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4734</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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	Sit on top sailing in light winds. It was her first time sailing and she said sailing a BSD is better than clubbing.</p>
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	&#160;</p>
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	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeuHzjTT6Yo&#38;list=ULaeuHzjTT6Yo&#38;feature=player_detailpage">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeuHzjTT6Yo&#038;list=ULaeuHzjTT6Yo&#038;feature=player_detailpage</a><span>&#160;</span></p>
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	&#160;</p>
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	&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Maddave</p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4724</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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	Hi Watertribe,</p>
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	&#160; Sailing in light winds with a Ute Long Haul&#160; folding kayak with a 36 HP Sport.&#160;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLs5OSKLnlc&#38;list=ULhLs5OSKLnlc&#38;feature=player_detailpage">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLs5OSKLnlc&#038;list=ULhLs5OSKLnlc&#038;feature=player_detailpage</a><span>&#160;</span></p>
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	&#160;</p>
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	&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Maddave</p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4723</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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	Hi KiwiBird.</p>
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	&#160;Deck is canvas and the hull is rubber. It a Long Hull folding Kayak Mark 1 (single). Fast&#160;and stable.&#160;Can carry a lot of gear.&#160;There is a Mark 2 &#160;(double) folding kayak that is very stable.&#160; There is a new version of the Ute coming out. I will be testing it soon. I will post pictures. I will be offering a line of folding kayaks that can be fitted with a BSD sail rig.</p>
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	&#160;</p>
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	&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Maddave</p>]]></description>
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			<title>KiwiBird on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4720</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>KiwiBird</dc:creator>
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	Dave, is that a canvas boat?</p>
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	KB</p>]]></description>
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			<title>Chief on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
			<link>http://watertribe.org/forums/topic/sailing-upwind-with-a-bsd-in-high-winds#post-4717</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator>
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	Looks like fun, but what was the angle off the wind? And how can I increase my windward performance?</p>]]></description>
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			<title>maddave440 on "Sailing upwind with a BSD in high winds"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>maddave440</dc:creator>
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	Sailing a BSD upwind in high winds a day after a hurricane&#160;hit Long Island.&#160;Sailed&#160;a Mark 1 Long Haul folding&#160;kayak.&#160;Used a 36 HP Vision. The sail was reef to 22 sq. ft.reef&#160; and&#160;I also used the&#160;extreme boss so I can survive&#160; the severe weather conditons. The extreme boss has never failed in any Watertribe events.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXONb7mP6ZM&#38;list=ULFXONb7mP6ZM&#38;feature=player_detailpage">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXONb7mP6ZM&#038;list=ULFXONb7mP6ZM&#038;feature=player_detailpage</a><span>&#160;</span></p>
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	The next Video was shot at Sheaphead Bay NY .&#160; Sailed a Mark 1 folding kayak. Used a 36 HP&#160;Sport. &#160;The sail was reef to 30 sq ft.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULGviLhAjNKsk&#38;v=GviLhAjNKsk&#38;feature=player_detailpage">http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULGviLhAjNKsk&#038;v=GviLhAjNKsk&#038;feature=player_detailpage</a><span>&#160;</span></p>
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	&#160;&#160; Maddave</p>]]></description>
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